Как может выглядеть жест "СТОП"?
Я понял, на каску можно лепить эмблему дивизии, а вот от чего зависит цвет полос?
На рисунках попадаются с белыми также и желтые полосы.
U.S. MILITARY POLICE
- Platon
- Откуда: Київ
09.01.17 [15:16]
U.S. MILITARY POLICE
#1
Прошу подсказки сообщества: что обозначает жест военного полицейского из миниартовского набора мотоциклистов?
Как может выглядеть жест "СТОП"?
Я понял, на каску можно лепить эмблему дивизии, а вот от чего зависит цвет полос?
На рисунках попадаются с белыми также и желтые полосы.
Как может выглядеть жест "СТОП"?
Я понял, на каску можно лепить эмблему дивизии, а вот от чего зависит цвет полос?
На рисунках попадаются с белыми также и желтые полосы.
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- Platon
- Откуда: Київ
23.01.17 [14:46]
#3
Спасибо, похоже, что фигура в миниартовском наборе показывает сигнал "СТОП".
С желтым цветом полос не понятно. В деке из набора элементы белоо цвета отдают желтизной, но скорее это от давнего срока изготовления самой декали.Придется из-за деки покупать Тмиевский набор военной полиции.
С желтым цветом полос не понятно. В деке из набора элементы белоо цвета отдают желтизной, но скорее это от давнего срока изготовления самой декали.Придется из-за деки покупать Тмиевский набор военной полиции.
- Demchenko Vladimir
- Откуда: Ростов-на-Дону
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23.01.17 [17:52]
#4
Platon, Ну может не стоит из-за одной полоски целый набор покупать? Можно надуть декаль самому, можно взять кусочек белой декали из остатков. В конце концов полоска может отдавать желтизной на самой декали (на контрасте с белой или голубой декальной бумагой), а когда вы ее переведете на оливковый шлем эта желтизна визуально абсолютно не будет восприниматься. Да и вряд ли в жизни белый цвет будет кипельно-белым. Лишь бы в итоге сама полоса и буквы МР были одного оттенка белого.
- Platon
- Откуда: Київ
23.01.17 [19:16]
#5
Вообще странно, что в продаже нет декалей 1:35 на американцев вв2. Да и сколько не гуглил, внятной информации, будь то книги или инструкции, по военной полиции не нашел.
- Boonie
- Откуда: г. Минск, Беларусь
29.01.17 [10:04]
U.S. MILITARY POLICE
#6
Platon Wrote:Я понял, на каску можно лепить эмблему дивизии, а вот от чего зависит цвет полос?
Придется из-за деки покупать Тмиевский набор военной полиции.
В послевоенный период цвет полосы на каске обозначал принадлежность подразделения военной полиции к уровню "бригада-дивизия-корпус".
Похоже, что в период ВМВ было так же. Например https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:4_US_MPs_reading_about_German_surrender_army.mil-2007-05-07-132957.jpg
Видно, что у двух МР полоса двухцветная (бело-красное сочетание характерно для армейских батальонов полиции).
В Тамиевском наборе декаль толстая и "дубовая", согнуть ее аккуратно по каске будет проблемно.
- Platon
- Откуда: Київ
31.01.17 [15:15]
#7
Попалось фото конной военной полиции
Похоже, что полосы, в отличие от MP, не белые
http://www.militaryhorse.org/forum/view ... hp?t=10415
Нашел немного информации по MP 30-й дивизии:
The most identifying insignia of an Military Policeman. was the arm brassard. White “MP” letters on a blue wool band, the brassard was worn on the left arm, just above the elbow. This was held in place by safety pins.
The symbol of the military police was the crossed model 1806 Harper’s Ferry .54 caliber Flintlock pistols which was approved in 1922. This was worn as collar insignia and worn on the top left lapel of the service blouse.
Brown garrison belts with brown cross belts were worn while on patrol in the U.S. No white gear was ever worn by any 30th M.P.’s during the war.
Perhaps the 2nd most noticeable symbol of the military police is the “M.P.” marked helmet. M.P. helmet markings are a great source of confusion and speculation. The first known M.P. helmet markings were gold painted “M.P.” on 1st Division helmets, when they made a beach landing at BaraFranca, Italy, July 1943. The only reference to regulations for M.P. helmets that I have seen comes from Uniform Regulations for the 8th Infantry Division, dated May 4, 1944. These regulations state:
“Military Police personnel will wear the markings of the size and description described in Sec. II, Adm Cir 88, Hq SOS ETOUSA, 26 November 1943. The Steel helmet and liner of all Military Police personnel will be marked on the front with the letters “MP” in white paint (the letters ”MP” will be spaced one and one half inched apart on the helmet of MP officers so as to allow space for insignia of rank.) All Military Police helmets and helmet liners will be marked with a one inch stripe, painted in yellow lusterless paint, encircling the helmet or helmet liner.” (Anyone know where I can get a copy of this ETO regulation???)
Late in the war, units also began to mark their M.P. helmets with their division insignia. This varied from unit to unit. In the 30th the insignia was painted just above the “MP”
.I questioned a few 30th M.P. Platoon veterans concerning their helmets A few remembered the white MP letter on the front, one said the helmet just had a yellow band. A few described the regulation white lettering with the yellow band. Mr. Lucius Hamilton stated that the helmets were painted before leaving England and were repainted in the field. Mr. Carl Nunemaker wrote that some, if not all the helmets had the Division insignia painted on them by the end of the war. He painted them on in the field. In the March 12th issue of THE BRASSARD, it is stated “To look your best, Smoky Hamilton suggests that washing your helmets will help keep the new paint jobs with insignia in top-notch shape - like the Stetson home.” He also stated that at the end of the war he was asked by the Division Provost Marshal to paint some white helmets/liners for the Command Post M.P.’s. General Hobbs saw one of them and asked “Who in the hell is that M.P. out there?” When told it was one of his , he was told to take it off.
http://www.30thinfantry.org/history_docs/mp_30.doc
Похоже, что полосы, в отличие от MP, не белые
http://www.militaryhorse.org/forum/view ... hp?t=10415
Нашел немного информации по MP 30-й дивизии:
The most identifying insignia of an Military Policeman. was the arm brassard. White “MP” letters on a blue wool band, the brassard was worn on the left arm, just above the elbow. This was held in place by safety pins.
The symbol of the military police was the crossed model 1806 Harper’s Ferry .54 caliber Flintlock pistols which was approved in 1922. This was worn as collar insignia and worn on the top left lapel of the service blouse.
Brown garrison belts with brown cross belts were worn while on patrol in the U.S. No white gear was ever worn by any 30th M.P.’s during the war.
Perhaps the 2nd most noticeable symbol of the military police is the “M.P.” marked helmet. M.P. helmet markings are a great source of confusion and speculation. The first known M.P. helmet markings were gold painted “M.P.” on 1st Division helmets, when they made a beach landing at BaraFranca, Italy, July 1943. The only reference to regulations for M.P. helmets that I have seen comes from Uniform Regulations for the 8th Infantry Division, dated May 4, 1944. These regulations state:
“Military Police personnel will wear the markings of the size and description described in Sec. II, Adm Cir 88, Hq SOS ETOUSA, 26 November 1943. The Steel helmet and liner of all Military Police personnel will be marked on the front with the letters “MP” in white paint (the letters ”MP” will be spaced one and one half inched apart on the helmet of MP officers so as to allow space for insignia of rank.) All Military Police helmets and helmet liners will be marked with a one inch stripe, painted in yellow lusterless paint, encircling the helmet or helmet liner.” (Anyone know where I can get a copy of this ETO regulation???)
Late in the war, units also began to mark their M.P. helmets with their division insignia. This varied from unit to unit. In the 30th the insignia was painted just above the “MP”
.I questioned a few 30th M.P. Platoon veterans concerning their helmets A few remembered the white MP letter on the front, one said the helmet just had a yellow band. A few described the regulation white lettering with the yellow band. Mr. Lucius Hamilton stated that the helmets were painted before leaving England and were repainted in the field. Mr. Carl Nunemaker wrote that some, if not all the helmets had the Division insignia painted on them by the end of the war. He painted them on in the field. In the March 12th issue of THE BRASSARD, it is stated “To look your best, Smoky Hamilton suggests that washing your helmets will help keep the new paint jobs with insignia in top-notch shape - like the Stetson home.” He also stated that at the end of the war he was asked by the Division Provost Marshal to paint some white helmets/liners for the Command Post M.P.’s. General Hobbs saw one of them and asked “Who in the hell is that M.P. out there?” When told it was one of his , he was told to take it off.
http://www.30thinfantry.org/history_docs/mp_30.doc
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